Bechorot Daf 35 (בכורות דף ל״ה)
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📖 Breakdown
Amud Aleph (35a)
Segment 1
TYPE: גמרא (סוף)
Abaye’s tradition: one who defiled another’s pure food and died — his son is not fined, since the fine was personal
Hebrew/Aramaic:
טִימֵּא טְהָרוֹת וָמֵת — לֹא קָנְסוּ בְּנוֹ אַחֲרָיו. מַאי טַעְמָא? הֶיזֵּק שֶׁאֵינוֹ נִיכָּר לָא שְׁמֵיהּ הֶיזֵּק, קְנָסָא דְּרַבָּנַן — לְדִידֵיהּ קְנַסוּ רַבָּנַן, לִבְרֵיהּ לָא קְנַסוּ רַבָּנַן.
English Translation:
that if one rendered impure the ritually pure items of another and died before paying, the Sages did not penalize his son after his death and require him to pay for the damage. What is the reason for this? The reason is that damage that is not evident, i.e., which does not involve any visible change, is not considered damage by Torah law. There is a penalty imposed by rabbinic law, as the injured party suffered a loss, but the Sages penalized only him; the Sages did not penalize his son.
קלאוד על הדף:
This segment completes the tradition Abaye introduced at the bottom of 34b, offered as a further answer to Rabbi Yirmeya’s question whether a fine imposed on a father passes to his heir. Rendering another’s taharot impure causes no visible physical change, so by Torah law it is not damage at all (heizek she’eino nikar); the obligation to pay is a rabbinic fine. Since the Sages fined the wrongdoer himself, the penalty dies with him and does not fall on his son. By analogy, the prohibition on a firstborn whose ear the father deliberately slit should likewise not bind the son — the fine was aimed at the person, not at his property.
Key Terms:
- טִימֵּא טְהָרוֹת = rendered ritually pure food (of another) impure
- הֶיזֵּק שֶׁאֵינוֹ נִיכָּר = damage that is not evident — no visible physical change; not considered damage by Torah law
- קְנָסָא דְּרַבָּנַן = a rabbinic fine or penalty
- לְדִידֵיהּ קְנַסוּ … לִבְרֵיהּ לָא קְנַסוּ = the Sages fined him personally, they did not fine his son
Segment 2
TYPE: משנה (מעשה)
The Roman quaestor who slit the ear of an old firstborn ram: the first animal permitted, later ones forbidden
Hebrew/Aramaic:
מַתְנִי׳ מַעֲשֶׂה בְּזָכָר שֶׁל רְחֵלִים זָקֵן, וּשְׂעָרוֹ מְדוּלְדָּל, וְרָאָהוּ קַסְטוֹר אֶחָד וְאָמַר: מָה טִיבוֹ שֶׁל זֶה? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: בְּכוֹר הוּא, וְאֵינוֹ נִשְׁחָט אֶלָּא אִם כֵּן הָיָה בּוֹ מוּם. נָטַל (פיגום) [פִּיגְיוֹם] וְצָרַם אׇזְנוֹ, וּבָא מַעֲשֶׂה לִפְנֵי חֲכָמִים וְהִתִּירוּ, וְאַחַר שֶׁהִתִּירוּ הָלַךְ וְצֵירֵם בְּאׇזְנֵי בְכוֹרוֹת אֲחֵרִים וְאָסְרוּ.
English Translation:
MISHNA: There was an incident involving an old ram whose hair was long and dangling, because it was a firstborn offering. And one Roman quaestor [kastor] saw it and said to its owner: What is the status [tivo] of this animal that you allowed it to grow old and you did not slaughter it? They said to him: It is a firstborn offering, and therefore it may be slaughtered only if it has a blemish. The quaestor took a dagger [pigom] and slit its ear. And the incident came before the Sages for a ruling, and they deemed its slaughter permitted. And after the Sages deemed its slaughter permitted, the quaestor went and slit the ears of other firstborn offerings, but in these cases the Sages deemed their slaughter prohibited, despite the fact that they were now blemished.
קלאוד על הדף:
A new mishna illustrates the principle of the previous mishna (34a) that a deliberately inflicted blemish does not permit a firstborn. An old ram with long, matted wool caught the eye of a Roman official, who learned that it could only be slaughtered once blemished and promptly slit its ear with a dagger. The Sages permitted that animal, since the owners had not intended or requested the blemish. But when the quaestor went on to blemish other firstborns, the Sages forbade them — once his habit was known, any blemish he inflicted could no longer be regarded as unintended from the owners’ point of view, and they might come to rely on him.
Key Terms:
- קַסְטוֹר = quaestor, a Roman official
- מָה טִיבוֹ = what is its nature/status?
- פִּיגְיוֹם = a dagger
- צָרַם אׇזְנוֹ = slit its ear — a recognised blemish that permits a firstborn to be slaughtered
- מְדוּלְדָּל = hanging loose, dangling
Segment 3
TYPE: משנה (מעשה וכלל)
Children tie lambs’ tails together and one tail is severed: permitted once, forbidden when imitated; the governing rule
Hebrew/Aramaic:
פַּעַם אַחַת הָיוּ תִּינוֹקוֹת מְשַׂחֲקִין בַּשָּׂדֶה, וְקָשְׁרוּ זַנְבֵי טְלָאִים זֶה בָּזֶה, וְנִפְסְקָה זְנָבוֹ שֶׁל אֶחָד מֵהֶם, וַהֲרֵי הוּא בְּכוֹר, וּבָא מַעֲשֶׂה לִפְנֵי חֲכָמִים וְהִתִּירוּ. רָאוּ שֶׁהִתִּירוּ, הָלְכוּ וְקָשְׁרוּ זַנְבוֹת בְּכוֹרוֹת אֲחֵרִים, וְאָסְרוּ. זֶה הַכְּלָל: כֹּל שֶׁהוּא לְדַעְתּוֹ — אָסוּר, שֶׁלֹּא לְדַעְתּוֹ — מוּתָּר.
English Translation:
One time children were playing in the field and they tied the tails of lambs to each other, and the tail of one of them was severed, and it was a firstborn offering. And the incident came before the Sages for a ruling and they deemed its slaughter permitted. The people who saw that they deemed its slaughter permitted went and tied the tails of other firstborn offerings, and the Sages deemed their slaughter prohibited. This is the principle: With regard to any blemish that is caused intentionally, the animal’s slaughter is prohibited; if the blemish is caused unintentionally, the animal’s slaughter is permitted.
קלאוד על הדף:
The mishna adds a second incident with the same structure: children at play tied lambs’ tails together, one tail tore off, and the lamb turned out to be a firstborn. The Sages permitted it, but when people copied the ‘accident’ deliberately with other firstborns, the Sages forbade those. The mishna then states the general rule: a blemish brought about with the owner’s intent renders the firstborn forbidden, while one that came about without his intent leaves it permitted. The rule focuses on the intent behind the blemish, not on who physically caused it.
Key Terms:
- תִּינוֹקוֹת = children, minors
- זַנְבֵי טְלָאִים = the tails of lambs
- זֶה הַכְּלָל = this is the general principle
- לְדַעְתּוֹ / שֶׁלֹּא לְדַעְתּוֹ = with his intent / without his intent
Segment 4
TYPE: גמרא (צריכותא)
Why both incidents are needed: a gentile will not develop a habit, but a Jewish child might
Hebrew/Aramaic:
גְּמָ׳ פַּעַם אַחֶרֶת הָיָה כּוּ׳. וּצְרִיכָא, דְּאִי אַשְׁמְעִינַן גּוֹי — דְּלָא אָתֵי לְמִיסְרַךְ, אֲבָל קָטָן דְּאָתֵי לְמִיסְרַךְ — אֵימָא לָא.
English Translation:
GEMARA: The mishna mentions that one time children were involved in a case in which they unintentionally blemished a firstborn offering whose subsequent slaughter the Sages deemed permitted. The Gemara notes: And although the first clause of the mishna mentions a similar occurrence, the incident involving the children is necessary. As, had the tanna taught us only the incident involving the gentile, it might have been thought that the Sages permitted the slaughter of the firstborn offering only there, as it is not a problem if the gentile will acquire the habit of causing blemishes, because that prohibition does not apply to gentiles. But with regard to a Jewish minor, it is a concern that he is likely to acquire the habit of causing blemishes in firstborn offerings, and therefore one might say that even the first, unintentional time should not be permitted.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara asks why the mishna records two incidents that teach the same rule, and begins its ‘tzerichuta’ (demonstration of necessity). Had we heard only of the gentile quaestor, we might have thought the first animal was permitted because the prohibition of blemishing does not apply to a gentile, so there is no worry about him forming a habit. A Jewish child, however, will grow up bound by the prohibition, and permitting even his first, accidental blemish might teach him that blemishing pays — so we might have forbidden it.
Key Terms:
- וּצְרִיכָא = and it is necessary (to state both cases)
- לְמִיסְרַךְ = to become habituated, to develop a habit
- קָטָן = a minor
Segment 5
TYPE: גמרא (צריכותא)
And the child’s case alone would not suffice: no one confuses a child with an adult, but a gentile adult might be confused with a Jew
Hebrew/Aramaic:
וְאִי אַשְׁמוֹעִינַן קָטָן, מִשּׁוּם דְּלָא אָתֵי לְאִיחַלּוֹפֵי בְּגָדוֹל, אֲבָל גּוֹי דְּאָתֵי לְאִיחַלּוֹפֵי בְּגָדוֹל — אֵימָא לָא. צְרִיכָא.
English Translation:
And had the tanna taught us only the incident involving a minor, it might have been thought that the Sages deemed the firstborn offering permitted only there, since there is no concern that people will come to confuse a minor with an adult. People would not erroneously conclude that it is permitted to cause a blemish on a firstborn offering intentionally merely due to an incident involving a minor. But in the case of a gentile adult, where this is a concern that people would come to confuse him with a Jewish adult, one might say that even the first, unintentional time should not be permitted. It is therefore necessary for the mishna to teach both cases.
קלאוד על הדף:
The second half of the tzerichuta shows the reverse. Had the mishna taught only the children, we might have permitted their accident because nobody would infer from a minor’s act that an adult may blemish a firstborn. A gentile, however, is an adult, and onlookers might confuse his act with that of a Jewish adult and conclude that deliberate blemishing is acceptable. Each case carries a distinct risk, so the mishna needs both to establish that an unintended blemish permits the animal regardless.
Key Terms:
- לְאִיחַלּוֹפֵי = to be confused, mistaken for
- גָּדוֹל = an adult
- צְרִיכָא = it is necessary
Segment 6
TYPE: גמרא (אוקימתא)
Rav Ketina: the quaestor’s first animal is permitted only if the owners said ‘unless it has a blemish’, not ‘unless a blemish is made’
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר רַב קַטִּינָא: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא דַּאֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ ״אֶלָּא אִם כֵּן הָיָה בּוֹ מוּם״, אֲבָל אִם אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ ״אִם נַעֲשָׂה בּוֹ מוּם״ — כְּמַאן דַּאֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ ״זִיל עֲבֵיד בֵּיהּ מוּמָא״ דָּמֵי.
English Translation:
§ The Gemara analyzes the incident involving the Roman quaestor. Rav Ḥisda says that Rav Ketina says: They taught that the firstborn offering is permitted only in a case where the bystanders said to the quaestor: A firstborn offering may not be slaughtered unless it has a blemish, as this is referring to a blemish that develops naturally. But if they said to him that a firstborn offering may be slaughtered only if a blemish was caused to form upon it, which indicates human intervention, it is considered as though they explicitly told him: Go and cause a blemish on it, in which case the animal is prohibited.
קלאוד על הדף:
Rav Chisda in the name of Rav Ketina qualifies the quaestor story according to the precise words the owners used. Saying the firstborn may be slaughtered only ‘if it has a blemish’ describes a natural state, so the quaestor’s act was his own initiative. But saying ‘if a blemish is made in it’ invites human action and is tantamount to telling him to go and blemish it — in which case the blemish is considered to have been brought about with the owners’ intent and the animal is forbidden.
Key Terms:
- אִם הָיָה בּוֹ מוּם = if it had a blemish (a passive, natural description)
- אִם נַעֲשָׂה בּוֹ מוּם = if a blemish was made in it (implying an agent)
- זִיל עֲבֵיד בֵּיהּ מוּמָא = go and make a blemish in it
Segment 7
TYPE: מחלוקת (דחייה)
Rava: both phrasings are passive — ‘was made’ also means it happened by itself; there is no difference
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אָמַר רָבָא: מִכְּדֵי מִמֵּילָא הוּא, מָה לִי ״הָיָה״, מָה לִי ״נַעֲשָׂה״? אֶלָּא ״נַעֲשָׂה״ נָמֵי מִמֵּילָא הוּא, וְלָא שְׁנָא.
English Translation:
The Gemara cites a dissenting opinion. Rava said: Now consider, both expressions in fact indicate that the blemish occurred by itself, as both statements are in the passive. Accordingly, what difference is it to me whether the bystanders used the expression: If it had a blemish, or the expression: A blemish was caused in it? Rather, the expression: Was caused, also indicates that it occurred by itself, and there is no difference between the expressions. In both instances the firstborn offering would be permitted.
קלאוד על הדף:
Rava rejects the distinction. Both ‘had a blemish’ and ‘a blemish was made’ are passive expressions that describe what happened to the animal without implying that anyone should act. Since the owners did not ask anyone to blemish it, either wording leaves the quaestor’s act as his own initiative, and the animal is permitted. The dispute turns on how much linguistic suggestion counts as ‘intent’ — Rav Ketina is sensitive to implicature, while Rava requires something closer to an actual request.
Key Terms:
- מִכְּדֵי = now consider, after all
- מִמֵּילָא = by itself, of its own accord
- וְלָא שְׁנָא = and there is no difference
Segment 8
TYPE: גמרא (ריבוי)
‘This is the rule — anything with intent is forbidden’ comes to include an indirect cause (gerama)
Hebrew/Aramaic:
זֶה הַכְּלָל: כֹּל שֶׁהוּא לְדַעַת — אָסוּר. לְאֵיתוֹיֵי מַאי? לְאֵיתוֹיֵי גְּרָמָא.
English Translation:
The mishna teaches that this is the principle: In the case of any blemish that is caused with his intent, the animal’s slaughter is prohibited. The Gemara explains: What does this principle serve to add? It serves to add an indirect action, i.e., a blemish caused in this manner is also considered an intentional act and the animal may not be slaughtered on its account.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara asks what the mishna’s general rule adds beyond the two stories, since a ‘zeh haklal’ is understood to include further cases. The first clause includes a blemish caused indirectly — for example, placing food where the animal will injure itself reaching for it. Even though the person did not strike the animal directly, an indirect act done in order to cause a blemish counts as intentional and forbids the firstborn. This links back to the discussion of gerama on 34a.
Key Terms:
- לְאֵיתוֹיֵי מַאי = what does it come to include?
- גְּרָמָא = an indirect cause — an act that leads to damage without directly inflicting it
Segment 9
TYPE: גמרא (ריבוי)
‘Without intent — permitted’ comes to include a gentile who learned of the firstborn from someone speaking offhandedly
Hebrew/Aramaic:
שֶׁלֹּא לְדַעַת — לְאֵיתוֹיֵי מֵסִיחַ לְפִי תוּמּוֹ.
English Translation:
The Gemara further inquires: What is added by the phrase in the second part of the principle: If the blemish was caused without his intent, the animal’s slaughter is permitted? This serves to add an instance where a gentile did not inquire about the nature of the firstborn offering, but rather discovered it from one who speaks offhandedly. Although the gentile intentionally caused a blemish in the animal, since the Jew did not intentionally prompt him to cause it, the animal is permitted.
קלאוד על הדף:
The second clause of the rule also adds a case: a gentile who blemished a firstborn after hearing about it from a Jew who was speaking innocently, without any intent to prompt him. Although the gentile acted on purpose, the Jew had no design, so the blemish is ‘without intent’ from the owner’s side and the animal is permitted. The rule is defined throughout by the intent of the Jewish party, not that of the person who physically inflicts the blemish.
Key Terms:
- מֵסִיחַ לְפִי תוּמּוֹ = one who speaks offhandedly, innocently, without ulterior intent
- שֶׁלֹּא לְדַעַת = without (the owner’s) intent
Segment 10
TYPE: משנה
A firstborn that chased its owner and was kicked and blemished may be slaughtered
Hebrew/Aramaic:
מַתְנִי׳ הָיָה בְּכוֹר רֹדְפוֹ, בְּעָטוֹ, וְעָשָׂה בּוֹ מוּם — הֲרֵי זֶה שׁוֹחֲטִין עָלָיו.
English Translation:
MISHNA: If one’s firstborn offering was pursuing him, and he kicked the animal and caused a blemish in it, he may slaughter the animal on account of that blemish.
קלאוד על הדף:
A short mishna applies the principle of intent to self-defence. If a firstborn was chasing a person and he kicked it, injuring it, the blemish may serve as grounds for slaughter. The kick was meant to repel the animal, not to blemish it, so the injury counts as an unintended blemish even though the person acted deliberately.
Key Terms:
- רֹדְפוֹ = pursuing him
- בְּעָטוֹ = he kicked it
- שׁוֹחֲטִין עָלָיו = one may slaughter (the firstborn) on account of it (the blemish)
Segment 11
TYPE: גמרא (אוקימתא וקושיא)
Rav Pappa: only a kick during the chase; afterwards it is forbidden — but that is obvious!
Hebrew/Aramaic:
גְּמָ׳ אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא שֶׁבְּעָטוֹ בִּשְׁעַת רְדִיפָה, אֲבָל לְאַחַר רְדִיפָה — לָא. פְּשִׁיטָא!
English Translation:
GEMARA: Rav Pappa says: They taught that the firstborn offering may be slaughtered only in an instance where he kicked it at the time of its pursuit. But if the individual kicked the animal after its pursuit, it may not be slaughtered, as he intended to cause a blemish in order to render it permitted to be slaughtered. The Gemara raises a difficulty: It is obvious that it is not permitted to slaughter the animal in such a case.
קלאוד על הדף:
Rav Pappa limits the mishna to a kick delivered while the animal was still chasing him. A kick after the chase has ended is no longer self-defence and is presumed to be aimed at producing a blemish, so the animal is forbidden. The Gemara objects that this seems obvious: once the danger has passed, there is no reason for the kick other than the blemish.
Key Terms:
- בִּשְׁעַת רְדִיפָה = at the time of the pursuit
- לְאַחַר רְדִיפָה = after the pursuit
- פְּשִׁיטָא = it is obvious!
Segment 12
TYPE: תירוץ
The ruling is needed lest we think the later kick was an outburst of lingering anger
Hebrew/Aramaic:
מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: צַעְרֵיהּ הוּא דְּמִדְּכַר, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.
English Translation:
The Gemara explains: Rav Pappa’s statement is necessary, lest you say that it is in fact permitted to slaughter the firstborn offering since he kicked it after its pursuit only out of anger, as he recalls his distress caused by its pursuit of him, and not in order to render the animal permitted to be slaughtered. Rav Pappa therefore teaches us that it is assumed that he kicked the animal with the express intention of causing a blemish in it, not merely out of anger, and therefore it may not be slaughtered.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara explains what Rav Pappa adds. One might have thought that a kick after the chase is still an emotional reaction — the man remembers the fright the animal gave him and lashes out in anger, with no thought of a blemish. Rav Pappa teaches that we do not assume this; once the pursuit is over, the kick is presumed to have been meant to blemish, and the firstborn is forbidden.
Key Terms:
- צַעְרֵיהּ הוּא דְּמִדְּכַר = he is recalling his distress (and kicks out of anger)
- קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן = it teaches us
Segment 13
TYPE: לישנא אחרינא
Another version of Rav Pappa: even a kick after the chase is permitted, because he is venting his distress
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי, אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: לָא תֵּימָא בִּשְׁעַת רְדִיפָה — אִין, אֲבָל שֶׁלֹּא בִּשְׁעַת רְדִיפָה — לָא, אֶלָּא אֲפִילּוּ לְאַחַר רְדִיפָה נָמֵי. מַאי טַעְמָא? צַעֲרֵיהּ [הוּא] דְּמִדְּכַר.
English Translation:
There are those who say the opposite version of this discussion. Rav Pappa says: Do not say that if the individual kicked the firstborn offering at the time of the pursuit, then yes, it is permitted to slaughter it, but if he kicked it not at the time of the pursuit, it is not permitted to slaughter it. Rather, even if he kicked it after its pursuit of him, it is also permitted. What is the reason? It is assumed that he kicked it after the pursuit not with the intention of causing a blemish, but because he recalls his distress caused by its pursuit of him.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara records a reverse version of Rav Pappa’s statement. In this version he rules that even a kick after the chase is permitted, precisely because we assume the person was venting his anger at what the animal had just done to him. The two versions differ on how to read the man’s state of mind — whether a later kick is presumed calculated or emotional — and the Gemara leaves both versions on record without deciding between them.
Key Terms:
- אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי = there are those who say (an alternative version)
- לָא תֵּימָא = do not say
- אֲפִילּוּ לְאַחַר רְדִיפָה = even after the pursuit
Segment 14
TYPE: מימרא
Rav Yehuda: one may blemish a firstborn before it emerges into the world; Rava on where — kid’s ear, lamb’s lip, or lamb’s ear too
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: מוּתָּר לְהַטִּיל מוּם בִּבְכוֹר קוֹדֶם שֶׁיָּצָא לַאֲוִיר הָעוֹלָם. אָמַר רָבָא: גַּדְיָא בְּאוּדְנֵיהּ, אִימְּרָא בְּשִׂפְוָותֵיהּ. אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי: אִימְּרָא נָמֵי בְּאוּדְנֵיהּ, אֵימוֹר דֶּרֶךְ צְדָעָיו נְפַק.
English Translation:
§ Rav Yehuda says: It is permitted to cause a blemish in a firstborn fetus before it emerges into the air of the world, as it obtains its sacred status only when it is born. Applying this ruling, Rava said: In the case of a kid, it is practical to cause a blemish on its ear. Since a kid’s ears are long they emerge from the birth canal prior to the head. With regard to a lamb, whose ears are short and do not appear before the head, it is practical to cause a blemish only on its lip. There are those who say that there is a different version of this statement: In the case of a lamb as well, it is practical to cause a blemish on its ear, as one can say that it emerges from the birth canal through its temples, in which case its ears are visible first.
קלאוד על הדף:
Rav Yehuda rules that one may inflict a blemish on a firstborn before it emerges, because its firstborn sanctity takes effect only at birth. Rava gives the practical application: a kid’s long ears emerge before its head, so one can nick its ear, while a lamb’s short ears do not appear first, so one must blemish its lip. A second version holds that a lamb too can be marked on the ear, since it may emerge temple-first, exposing the ears. The ruling turns the timing of kedushat bechor into a legitimate way to avoid the problem of an unblemished firstborn that can neither be offered nor eaten.
Key Terms:
- קוֹדֶם שֶׁיָּצָא לַאֲוִיר הָעוֹלָם = before it has emerged into the air of the world, i.e., before birth
- גַּדְיָא בְּאוּדְנֵיהּ = a kid — on its ear
- אִימְּרָא בְּשִׂפְוָותֵיהּ = a lamb — on its lips
- צְדָעָיו = its temples (sides of the head)
Segment 15
TYPE: מימרא וקושיא
Rava: a mouth blemish visible only when the animal opens wide to cry out is a blemish — but the mishna already implies it
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אָמַר רָבָא: אָכֵל וְלָא מִיחֲזֵי, פָּעֵי וּמִיחֲזֵי — הָוֵי מוּמָא. מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן? תְּנֵינָא: הַחוּטִין הַחִיצוֹנוֹת — שֶׁנִּפְגְּמוּ וְשֶׁנִּגְמְמוּ, הַפְּנִימִיּוֹת — שֶׁנֶּעֶקְרוּ. מַאי טַעְמָא? לָאו מִשּׁוּם דְּכִי פָּעֵי מִיחְזֵי?!
English Translation:
Rava says: In a case where a firstborn has a blemish in its mouth, if, when it eats, the blemish is not visible, but when it opens its mouth wide and cries out, it is visible, this is considered a blemish, rendering the animal fit for slaughter. The Gemara asks: What is this teaching us? We learn this in the mishna (39a) with regard to blemishes that render a firstborn offering fit for slaughter: The external gums that were damaged and lacking or that were scratched, and likewise, the internal gums that were entirely extracted, are considered blemished. What is the reason that if the internal gums were extracted it is considered a blemish? Is it not because when the animal opens its mouth wide and cries out, it is visible? If so, what is the novelty of Rava’s statement?
קלאוד על הדף:
Rava rules that a blemish in the mouth counts even if it is hidden while the animal eats and visible only when it opens its mouth wide to bleat. The Gemara asks what this adds, since the mishna on 39a already lists extracted inner gums as a blemish, and the only reason those could count is that they are visible when the animal opens its mouth. Rava’s ruling would then seem to be implied by the mishna already.
Key Terms:
- פָּעֵי = bleats, cries out (opening its mouth wide)
- מִיחֲזֵי = is visible
- הַחוּטִין הַחִיצוֹנוֹת / הַפְּנִימִיּוֹת = the outer / inner gums
- נִפְגְּמוּ / נִגְמְמוּ / נֶעֶקְרוּ = damaged / scratched or worn down / uprooted
Segment 16
TYPE: תירוץ
Rav Pappa: Rava was explaining the reason behind the mishna, not adding a new law
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: רָבָא נָמֵי טַעְמָא דְמַתְנִיתִין מְפָרֵשׁ, מַאי טַעְמָא נֶעְקְרוּ הָוֵי מוּמָא — מִשּׁוּם דְּכִי פָּעֵי מִיחְזֵי.
English Translation:
Rav Pappa says in response: Rava is not in fact teaching a novel halakha. Rather, he is explaining the reason for the ruling of the mishna: What is the reason that if the internal gums were extracted it is considered a blemish? It is that when the animal opens its mouth wide and cries out, the blemish is visible.
קלאוד על הדף:
Rav Pappa answers that Rava did not claim to add a new law. He was stating the reason behind the mishna’s ruling on the inner gums: they count because they show when the animal opens its mouth. The Gemara often handles an apparently redundant amoraic statement this way, treating it as a commentary on the mishna rather than an independent ruling.
Key Terms:
- טַעְמָא דְמַתְנִיתִין מְפָרֵשׁ = he explains the reason of the mishna
Segment 17
TYPE: משנה
Credibility on blemishes that could be man-made: Israelite shepherds believed, priest-shepherds not; Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel and Rabbi Meir
Hebrew/Aramaic:
מַתְנִי׳ כׇּל הַמּוּמִין הָרְאוּיִין לָבֹא בִּידֵי אָדָם, רוֹעֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל נֶאֱמָנִין, רוֹעִים כֹּהֲנִים אֵינָן נֶאֱמָנִין. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: נֶאֱמָן הוּא עַל שֶׁל חֲבֵירוֹ, וְאֵין נֶאֱמָן עַל שֶׁל עַצְמוֹ. רַבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר: הֶחָשׁוּד עַל הַדֶּבֶר, לֹא דָּנוֹ וְלֹא מְעִידוֹ.
English Translation:
MISHNA: With regard to all the blemishes that are capable of being brought about by a person, Israelite shepherds are deemed credible to testify that the blemishes were not caused intentionally. But priest-shepherds are not deemed credible, as they are the beneficiaries if the firstborn is blemished. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: A priest is deemed credible to testify about the firstborn of another, but is not deemed credible to testify about the firstborn belonging to him. Rabbi Meir says: A priest who is suspect about the matter of causing a blemish may neither adjudicate nor testify in cases involving that matter, even on behalf of another.
קלאוד על הדף:
A new mishna turns from how a blemish arose to who may testify about it. For blemishes that a person could have inflicted, Israelite shepherds are believed when they say it occurred naturally, but priest-shepherds are not, since a blemished firstborn is theirs to eat. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel allows a priest to testify about another priest’s firstborn but not his own. Rabbi Meir extends the principle of the mishna on 30a: one suspect in a matter may neither judge nor testify about it, even for others.
Key Terms:
- הָרְאוּיִין לָבֹא בִּידֵי אָדָם = capable of being brought about by a person (as opposed to blemishes that could only be natural)
- רוֹעֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל / רוֹעִים כֹּהֲנִים = Israelite shepherds / priest-shepherds
- נֶאֱמָנִין = deemed credible
- הֶחָשׁוּד עַל הַדָּבָר לֹא דָּנוֹ וְלֹא מְעִידוֹ = one who is suspect regarding a matter may neither judge it nor testify about it
Segment 18
TYPE: מחלוקת אמוראים
Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Elazar: the first view — ‘Israelite shepherds’ means Israelites employed by a priest; no fear of a mouthful
Hebrew/Aramaic:
גְּמָ׳ רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן וְרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר, חַד אָמַר: ״רוֹעֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל״ בֵּי כֹהֲנִים — נֶאֱמָנִין, לִלְגִימָא לָא חָיְישִׁינַן.
English Translation:
GEMARA: Rabbi Yoḥanan and Rabbi Elazar disagree with regard to the meaning of the mishna. One of them says that the case of Israelite shepherds is where the shepherds are in the house of priests, i.e., in the employ of a priest. These shepherds are deemed credible to testify that the blemishes were not caused intentionally, as we are not concerned they are lying for a swallow [lilegima] of the firstborn that their priest employer might give them in exchange.
קלאוד על הדף:
Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Elazar dispute how to read the mishna’s terms, and the Gemara gives the first view in full (the speakers are not identified). On this reading, ‘Israelite shepherds’ are Israelites working for a priest. They are believed, since we do not suspect them of lying about a blemish for the sake of a mouthful of meat their employer might share with them.
Key Terms:
- בֵּי כֹהֲנִים = in the house (employ) of priests
- לְגִימָא = a mouthful, a swallow — a small portion of meat
- לָא חָיְישִׁינַן = we are not concerned
Segment 19
TYPE: גמרא (המשך שיטה א)
Priest-shepherds employed by an Israelite are not believed — he expects the firstborn he tended to be given to him
Hebrew/Aramaic:
רוֹעֵי כֹּהֲנִים בֵּי יִשְׂרָאֵל — אֵין נֶאֱמָנִין, מֵימָר אָמַר: כֵּיוָן דְּקָא טָרַחְנָא בֵּיהּ, לָא שָׁבֵיק לְדִידִי וְיָהֵיב לְאַחֲרִינֵי.
English Translation:
And the case of priest-shepherds is where the shepherds are in the house of an Israelite, i.e., in the latter’s employ. In such a case, the priest-shepherds are not deemed credible to testify that the blemishes were not caused intentionally, as the priest-shepherd can say: Since I have toiled with this firstborn offering, my Israelite employer will not forsake me and give it to another priest. The priest is assumed to be lying, as he has a motive to cause a blemish in the animal.
קלאוד על הדף:
Continuing the first view, ‘priest-shepherds’ are priests working for an Israelite owner. Such a priest is not believed, because he can expect that the owner will give the firstborn he has tended to him rather than to another priest. That gives him a direct motive to blemish the animal so that he can eat it outside the Temple, so his testimony is suspect.
Key Terms:
- טָרַחְנָא בֵּיהּ = I have toiled over it
- לָא שָׁבֵיק לְדִידִי וְיָהֵיב לְאַחֲרִינֵי = he will not pass me over and give it to others
Segment 20
TYPE: גמרא (המשך שיטה א)
And likewise a priest testifying for another priest is not believed, because of reciprocity
Hebrew/Aramaic:
וְהוּא הַדִּין כֹּהֵן לְכֹהֵן, דְּחָיְישִׁינַן לְגוֹמְלִין.
English Translation:
And the same is true in the case of a priest who testifies for the sake of another priest. Although the first priest would not derive benefit from his testimony immediately, he is nevertheless not deemed credible to testify, as we are concerned about reciprocal behavior, i.e., the other priest might later repay the favor and lie on his behalf.
קלאוד על הדף:
The first view adds that the same holds when one priest testifies about another priest’s firstborn. He gains nothing directly, but we fear reciprocity (gomlin): today he vouches for his colleague, and tomorrow the colleague will return the favour. The concern for mutual back-scratching extends the suspicion beyond the priest who personally profits.
Key Terms:
- גּוֹמְלִין = reciprocators — those who return favours to one another
- וְהוּא הַדִּין = and the same law applies
Segment 21
TYPE: גמרא (המשך שיטה א)
On this view, Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel dismisses the reciprocity concern; Rabbi Meir comes to state his rule
Hebrew/Aramaic:
וַאֲתָא רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל לְמֵימַר: נֶאֱמָן הוּא עַל שֶׁל חֲבֵירוֹ, וְאֵינוֹ נֶאֱמָן עַל שֶׁל עַצְמוֹ. וַאֲתָא רַבִּי מֵאִיר לְמֵימַר: הֶחָשׁוּד עַל הַדֶּבֶר לֹא דָּנוֹ וְלֹא מְעִידוֹ.
English Translation:
And Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel comes to say that the testimony of a priest in such a case, when he testifies about the firstborn of another priest, is deemed credible, as there is no concern about reciprocal behavior. But he is not deemed credible with regard to his own firstborn. And Rabbi Meir comes to say that a priest, who is suspect about the matter of causing a blemish, may neither adjudicate nor testify in cases involving that matter, even on behalf of another. The difference between the opinion of Rabbi Meir and that of the first tanna will be discussed further on.
קלאוד על הדף:
The first view now places the other two tannaim. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel disagrees about reciprocity and believes a priest testifying about another priest’s firstborn, though not about his own. Rabbi Meir comes with his broad rule that one suspect in a matter may neither judge nor testify about it. The Gemara notes that what Rabbi Meir adds beyond the first tanna on this reading still needs to be explained — the question taken up on 35b.
Key Terms:
- וַאֲתָא … לְמֵימַר = and (he) comes to say
- עַל שֶׁל חֲבֵירוֹ / עַל שֶׁל עַצְמוֹ = regarding (the firstborn) of his fellow / regarding his own
Segment 22
TYPE: מחלוקת אמוראים (שיטה ב)
The second view: ‘Israelite shepherds’ means priests working for an Israelite, and they are believed
Hebrew/Aramaic:
וְחַד אָמַר: ״רוֹעֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל״ וְהֵן כֹּהֲנִים — נֶאֱמָנִין,
English Translation:
The Gemara cites the other explanation of the mishna: And the other one of the two amora’im says: The case of Israelite shepherds is where the shepherds are priests in the employ of an Israelite. The mishna is teaching that these shepherds are deemed credible to testify that the blemishes on their employer’s firstborn offering were not caused intentionally, as they are not suspected of lying in order to obtain its meat.
קלאוד על הדף:
The second amora reads the terms the other way: ‘Israelite shepherds’ are shepherds who work for an Israelite, even if they themselves are priests. They are believed, since we do not suspect them of blemishing the animal to obtain its meat. The reason is given at the start of 35b. The segment ends mid-sentence at the amud boundary.
Key Terms:
- וְהֵן כֹּהֲנִים = and they are priests
- רוֹעֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל = shepherds of (i.e., employed by) an Israelite, on this reading
Amud Bet (35b)
Segment 1
TYPE: גמרא (המשך שיטה ב)
The priest-shepherd assumes the owner will give the firstborn to a scholar, not to him; Israelites employed by a priest are not believed
Hebrew/Aramaic:
מֵימָר אָמַר: לָא שָׁבֵיק צוּרְבָּא מֵרַבָּנַן וְיָהֵיב לְדִידִי. ״רוֹעֵי כֹהֲנִים״ וְהֵן יִשְׂרָאֵל — אֵינָן נֶאֱמָנִין, דְּחָיְישִׁינַן לִלְגִימָא.
English Translation:
The reason is that it is assumed that the priest-shepherd would say: My Israelite employer will not forsake a priest who is a Torah scholar and give the blemished animal to me, an unlearned shepherd. The case of priest-shepherds is where the shepherds are Israelites in the employ of a priest. These shepherds are not deemed credible to testify, as we are concerned that they might be lying for a swallow of the firstborn that their priest employer would give them in exchange.
קלאוד על הדף:
This segment completes the second view begun at the end of 35a. A priest working for an Israelite is believed because he does not expect to receive the firstborn: he assumes the owner will give it to a priest who is a Torah scholar rather than to a simple shepherd, so he has no motive to blemish it. ‘Priest-shepherds’ on this reading are Israelites working for a priest, and they are not believed, since we fear they will lie to earn a mouthful of the meat.
Key Terms:
- צוּרְבָּא מֵרַבָּנַן = a young Torah scholar
- לָא שָׁבֵיק … וְיָהֵיב לְדִידִי = he will not pass over (a scholar) and give it to me
- חָיְישִׁינַן לִלְגִימָא = we are concerned about (lying for) a mouthful
Segment 2
TYPE: גמרא (המשך שיטה ב)
All the more so a priest for a priest — both reciprocity and the mouthful; Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel and Rabbi Meir on this view
Hebrew/Aramaic:
וְכׇל שֶׁכֵּן כֹּהֵן לְכֹהֵן, דְּחָיְישִׁינַן לְגוֹמְלִין, וְחָיְישִׁינַן לִלְגִימָא. וַאֲתָא רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן לְמֵימַר: נֶאֱמָן עַל שֶׁל חֲבֵירוֹ, וְאֵינוֹ נֶאֱמָן עַל שֶׁל עַצְמוֹ. וַאֲתָא רַבִּי מֵאִיר לְמֵימַר: הֶחָשׁוּד עַל הַדָּבָר, לֹא דָּנוֹ וְלֹא מְעִידוֹ.
English Translation:
And all the more so the testimony of a priest for the sake of another priest is not deemed credible, as we are concerned that the two might engage in reciprocal behavior, and we are concerned that the priest-shepherd might be lying for a swallow of the firstborn offering. And Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel comes to say that the priest-shepherd is deemed credible to testify with regard to the firstborn offering of another priest, but is not deemed credible to testify with regard to a firstborn belonging to himself. And Rabbi Meir comes to say that a priest who is suspect about the matter of causing a blemish may neither adjudicate nor testify in cases involving that matter, even on behalf of another.
קלאוד על הדף:
On the second view, a priest who tends another priest’s firstborn is certainly not believed, since both concerns apply: reciprocity between the two priests and the hope of a share of the meat. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel comes to say that a priest is believed about another’s firstborn but not his own, and Rabbi Meir comes to say that one suspect in a matter may neither judge nor testify about it. The structure matches the first view, but the cases to which each tanna responds have been reversed.
Key Terms:
- וְכׇל שֶׁכֵּן = and all the more so
- כֹּהֵן לְכֹהֵן = a priest (testifying) for a priest
Segment 3
TYPE: קושיא (פתיחה)
Granted, on the second view Rabbi Meir adds something — even a priest working for an Israelite is not believed
Hebrew/Aramaic:
בִּשְׁלָמָא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר: רוֹעֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וְהֵן כֹּהֲנִים נֶאֱמָנִין — הַיְינוּ דַּאֲתָא רַבִּי מֵאִיר לְמֵימַר: הֶחָשׁוּד עַל הַדָּבָר לֹא דָּנוֹ וְלֹא מְעִידוֹ.
English Translation:
The Gemara raises a difficulty: Granted, according to the second opinion, i.e., the one who says the first tanna maintains that the case of Israelite shepherds is where the shepherds are priests in the employ of an Israelite, and they are deemed credible to testify, this is the reason that Rabbi Meir comes to disagree and say that a priest who is suspect about the matter of causing a blemish may neither adjudicate nor testify even for the sake of an Israelite employer.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara begins to test both readings against Rabbi Meir’s clause. On the second view, the first tanna believes a priest working for an Israelite, so Rabbi Meir’s statement makes sense as a dissent: a priest is suspect about blemishes and may not testify even in that case. On this reading Rabbi Meir has a clear point of disagreement.
Key Terms:
- בִּשְׁלָמָא = granted, it is understandable
- הַיְינוּ דַּאֲתָא = this is why (he) comes
Segment 4
TYPE: קושיא
But on the first view, the first tanna already disqualifies a priest working for an Israelite — what does Rabbi Meir add?
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אֶלָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר: רוֹעֵי כֹהֲנִים בֵּי יִשְׂרָאֵל אֵין נֶאֱמָנִין — מַאי אֲתָא רַבִּי מֵאִיר לְאַשְׁמוֹעִינַן? הַיְינוּ תַּנָּא קַמָּא!
English Translation:
But according to the first opinion, i.e., the one who says that the first tanna maintains that the case of priest-shepherds is where the shepherds are in an Israelite’s house, and they are not deemed credible to testify, what is Rabbi Meir coming to teach us? This is the same opinion as that of the first tanna himself.
קלאוד על הדף:
On the first view, however, the first tanna already disqualifies priests working for an Israelite. Rabbi Meir’s statement would then seem to repeat the first tanna and add nothing. The Gemara must find a practical difference between them on this reading.
Key Terms:
- מַאי אֲתָא … לְאַשְׁמוֹעִינַן = what does he come to teach us?
- הַיְינוּ תַּנָּא קַמָּא = this is (the same as) the first tanna
Segment 5
TYPE: תירוץ (ברייתא)
They differ over Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai: a priest’s firstborn requires two witnesses ‘from the market’
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אִיכָּא בֵּינַיְיהוּ דְּרַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן קַפּוֹסַאי, דְּתַנְיָא: רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן קַפּוֹסַאי אוֹמֵר: בְּכוֹר בֵּי כֹהֵן צָרִיךְ שְׁנַיִם מִן הַשּׁוּק לְהָעִיד עָלָיו.
English Translation:
The Gemara answers: There is a difference between the opinions of the first tanna and Rabbi Meir with regard to a statement of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai. As it is taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai says: If a firstborn animal in the house of a priest developed a blemish, two people from the marketplace, i.e., not from the priest’s household, are required to testify about it that the blemish was not caused deliberately. This unqualified statement indicates that the two people can even be priests, provided that they are not household members.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara answers that the first tanna and Rabbi Meir differ over a baraita of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai: a firstborn in a priest’s house needs two outside witnesses ‘from the market’ to testify that its blemish was not man-made. Since he does not say they must be Israelites, outside witnesses who are priests would qualify. The first tanna agrees with this, while Rabbi Meir, who regards every priest as suspect about blemishes, would disqualify even an unconnected priest.
Key Terms:
- שְׁנַיִם מִן הַשּׁוּק = two (witnesses) from the market — outsiders unconnected to the household
- בְּכוֹר בֵּי כֹהֵן = a firstborn in the house (possession) of a priest
- אִיכָּא בֵּינַיְיהוּ = there is a (practical) difference between them
Segment 6
TYPE: ברייתא (המשך)
Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel: even his son or daughter may testify; Rabbi Yosei: even ten household members may not
Hebrew/Aramaic:
רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: אֲפִילּוּ בְּנוֹ, אֲפִילּוּ בִּתּוֹ. רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: אֲפִילּוּ עֲשָׂרָה וְהֵן בְּנֵי בֵיתוֹ אֵין מְעִידִין עָלָיו.
English Translation:
The baraita continues: Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: Even the priest’s son and even his daughter may testify about it. Rabbi Yosei says: Even in a case where there are ten people, if they are members of his household, they may not testify about it. The first tanna of the mishna maintains that only a priest who is a shepherd of the animal in question is not deemed credible to testify, but the testimony of an independent priest is credible. This accords with the opinion of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai, who allows the testimony of any two independent people, including a priest. Conversely, Rabbi Meir does not deem credible even the testimony of an independent priest, as indicated by his general statement about suspect priests.
קלאוד על הדף:
The baraita continues with two further views on the priest’s household. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel holds that even the priest’s son or daughter may testify, while Rabbi Yosei holds that household members are disqualified even if there are ten of them. The English shows how the baraita resolves the difficulty: the first tanna of the mishna, like Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai, believes any independent priest, whereas Rabbi Meir believes none. The dispute between Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel and Rabbi Yosei sets up the halachic ruling later in the daf.
Key Terms:
- אֲפִילּוּ בְּנוֹ, אֲפִילּוּ בִּתּוֹ = even his son, even his daughter
- בְּנֵי בֵיתוֹ = members of his household
- אֲפִילּוּ עֲשָׂרָה = even ten (witnesses)
Segment 7
TYPE: שאלה
Whose view is Rav Ketina’s ruling that a doubtful firstborn in an Israelite’s house needs two outside witnesses?
Hebrew/Aramaic:
כְּמַאן אָזְלָא הָא דְּאָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר רַב קַטִּינָא: סְפֵק בְּכוֹר שֶׁנּוֹלַד בֵּי יִשְׂרָאֵל, צָרִיךְ שְׁנַיִם מִן הַשּׁוּק לְהָעִיד עָלָיו?
English Translation:
The Gemara discusses a related statement: In accordance with whose opinion is that which Rav Ḥisda says that Rav Ketina says: In the case of an animal whose status as a firstborn is uncertain that was born in the house, i.e., in the possession, of an Israelite, e.g., it was uncertain whether the mother had previously given birth, in which case the animal remains in the possession of the Israelite and may be eaten upon developing a blemish, two people from the marketplace are required to testify about it?
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara cites a related ruling of Rav Chisda in the name of Rav Ketina: a safek bechor born in an Israelite’s possession — which stays with the Israelite and may be eaten once blemished — requires two outside witnesses to its blemish. The owner here is an Israelite, not a priest, yet he too gains from a blemish, so the question is which tanna would require outside testimony in this case.
Key Terms:
- סְפֵק בְּכוֹר = an animal of doubtful firstborn status
- כְּמַאן אָזְלָא = in accordance with whom does it go?
- בֵּי יִשְׂרָאֵל = in the house (possession) of an Israelite
Segment 8
TYPE: תשובה
It follows Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai
Hebrew/Aramaic:
כְּמַאן? כְּרַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן קַפּוֹסַאי.
English Translation:
In accordance with whose opinion is this statement? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai. Just as he requires two independent people to testify about a firstborn offering in the possession of a priest, as he is suspected of intentionally causing the blemish, so too, he requires two independent people to testify in the case of an uncertain status of a firstborn offering born in the possession of an Israelite.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara answers that the ruling follows Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai. Just as he requires two outside witnesses for a priest’s firstborn because the owner stands to gain from a blemish, Rav Ketina requires the same for a doubtful firstborn in an Israelite’s house, where the Israelite owner likewise gains. The suspicion depends on who benefits, not on priestly status as such.
Key Terms:
- כְּרַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן קַפּוֹסַאי = in accordance with Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai
Segment 9
TYPE: מחלוקת (רב נחמן)
Rav Nachman: the owners themselves may testify — otherwise, on Rabbi Meir’s view, who could testify about maaser beheima?
Hebrew/Aramaic:
רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר: בְּעָלִים מְעִידִין עָלָיו, דְּאִי לָא תֵּימָא הָכִי, מַעֲשֵׂר לְרַבִּי מֵאִיר מִי מֵעִיד עָלָיו?
English Translation:
Rav Naḥman disagrees and says: The Israelite owners themselves may testify about it. As, if you do not say so, but instead maintain that any involved person is suspected of deliberately causing a blemish in his firstborn animal, this poses a difficulty with regard to the halakha of an animal tithe offering, which may also be eaten if it developed a blemish. According to Rabbi Meir, who can testify about it? Rabbi Meir maintains that anyone who is suspect about the matter of causing a blemish on his own behalf may neither adjudicate nor testify in cases involving that matter even on behalf of another. If so, how can anyone, even an Israelite, testify about any blemished animal-tithe offering? It must be that an Israelite is not suspected of deliberately causing blemishes.
קלאוד על הדף:
Rav Nachman disagrees and holds that the Israelite owners may testify about their own doubtful firstborn. He argues that if every interested owner were suspect, then on Rabbi Meir’s view no one could testify about a blemished animal tithe (maaser beheima), which is also eaten by its owner once blemished. Since there must be some way to permit a blemished tithe animal, Israelites cannot be suspected of blemishing their animals.
Key Terms:
- בְּעָלִים מְעִידִין עָלָיו = the owners may testify about it
- מַעֲשֵׂר = here, the animal tithe (maaser beheima), which belongs to the owner and may be eaten when blemished
- מִי מֵעִיד עָלָיו = who can testify about it?
Segment 10
TYPE: דחייה ותיקון
Maaser is different: he could have blemished the whole flock beforehand — rather, the argument is from safek bechor
Hebrew/Aramaic:
מַעֲשֵׂר וַדַּאי מְהֵימַן, דְּאִי בָּעֵי שָׁדֵי בֵּיהּ מוּמָא בְּכוּלֵּיהּ עֶדְרֵיהּ. אֶלָּא סְפֵק בְּכוֹר, לְרַבִּי מֵאִיר מִי מֵעִיד עָלָיו?
English Translation:
The Gemara rejects this claim: With regard to the animal tithe offering, the owner is certainly deemed credible to testify that its blemish occurred naturally, because if he wants, he could legitimately cause a blemish in his entire flock before the obligation to separate tithes came into effect. Rather, this is what Rav Naḥman stated: If an Israelite is not deemed credible to testify about a blemish found on an animal whose status as a firstborn is uncertain, then according to Rabbi Meir, who can testify about it? Both Israelites and priests stand to gain if their animal whose status as a firstborn is uncertain develops a blemish, and therefore no one should be deemed credible to testify about it.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara rejects the proof from maaser. The owner of a tithe animal is believed because he could have legitimately blemished his entire flock before the tithing obligation took effect, so he has no reason to lie now. Rav Nachman’s argument is therefore restated in terms of the doubtful firstborn: on Rabbi Meir’s view, both Israelites and priests gain from its blemish, so who could ever testify about it?
Key Terms:
- מַעֲשֵׂר וַדַּאי מְהֵימַן = regarding maaser, (the owner) is certainly believed
- שָׁדֵי בֵּיהּ מוּמָא בְּכוּלֵּיהּ עֶדְרֵיהּ = he could cast a blemish into his entire flock
- סְפֵק בְּכוֹר = a doubtful firstborn
Segment 11
TYPE: קושיא (מן המשנה)
Could a doubtful firstborn simply have no remedy for Rabbi Meir? No — the mishna (18b) shows Rabbi Meir has it eaten with the priestly gifts
Hebrew/Aramaic:
וְכִי תֵּימָא, הָכִי נָמֵי דְּלֵית לֵיהּ תַּקַּנְתָּא, וְהָתְנַן, שֶׁהָיָה רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: כֹּל שֶׁחֲלִיפָיו בְּיַד כֹּהֵן פָּטוּר מִן הַמַּתָּנוֹת, וְרַבִּי מֵאִיר מְחַיֵּיב!
English Translation:
And if you would say that indeed, according to Rabbi Meir, an animal whose status as a firstborn is uncertain has no remedy that can render it fit for slaughter, as no one is deemed credible to testify about its blemish, this cannot be correct. But didn’t we learn in a mishna (18b) that Rabbi Yosei would say: Any animal whose replacements are in the possession of a priest is exempt from, i.e., not subject to, the mitzva of giving the priestly gifts, and Rabbi Meir deems him obligated to give the gifts? Since Rabbi Meir permits the consumption of an animal whose status as a firstborn is uncertain, evidently he allows testimony about its blemish in such a case.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara rules out the possibility that, on Rabbi Meir’s view, a doubtful firstborn simply has no remedy. The mishna on 18b records a dispute about an animal ‘whose replacement is in the priest’s hands’: Rabbi Yosei exempts it from the priestly gifts and Rabbi Meir requires them. That dispute assumes such a doubtful firstborn is slaughtered and eaten, so even for Rabbi Meir someone must be able to testify to its blemish.
Key Terms:
- כֹּל שֶׁחֲלִיפָיו בְּיַד כֹּהֵן = any (animal) whose replacements are in the priest’s hand
- הַמַּתָּנוֹת = the priestly gifts — the foreleg, jaw and maw given from a slaughtered animal (Devarim 18:3)
- תַּקַּנְתָּא = a remedy, a means of rectification
Segment 12
TYPE: מסקנא
Conclusion: the owners testify — priests are suspect about blemishes, Israelites are not
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אֶלָּא שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ: בְּעָלִים מְעִידִין עָלָיו, כֹּהֲנִים הוּא דַּחֲשִׁידִי אַמּוּמֵי, יִשְׂרָאֵל לָא חֲשִׁידִי אַמּוּמֵי.
English Translation:
Rather, learn from this that the Israelite owners may testify about their animals whose status as a firstborn are uncertain, despite the fact that priests may not. The reason is that it is only priests who are suspected of causing blemishes; Israelites are not suspected of causing blemishes.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara concludes in favour of Rav Nachman: Israelite owners may testify about their own doubtful firstborn. The suspicion attaches specifically to priests, who regularly receive firstborns and might be tempted to blemish them; Israelites are not presumed to blemish animals. This reading brings Rabbi Meir’s sweeping rule back within limits and spares the Israelite owner from needing outside witnesses.
Key Terms:
- שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ = learn from this
- חֲשִׁידִי אַמּוּמֵי = suspected of (causing) blemishes
Segment 13
TYPE: מחלוקת אמוראים (פסק)
Rav Nachman: the halacha follows Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel; Rava: it follows Rabbi Yosei
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אִיתְּמַר: רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר: הֲלָכָה כְּרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, רָבָא אָמַר: הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי.
English Translation:
§ It was stated: Rav Naḥman says that the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, that a priest is deemed credible to testify about the blemished firstborn animal of another priest, even if he is a household member. Rava says: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, that one’s household members are not deemed credible to testify.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara returns to the baraita’s dispute over the priest’s household. Rav Nachman rules like Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, that the priest’s children may testify about his firstborn, while Rava rules like Rabbi Yosei, that household members are disqualified however many there are. The rest of the daf tests Rava’s position and then gives the final ruling.
Key Terms:
- אִיתְּמַר = it was stated (an amoraic dispute)
- הֲלָכָה כְּ… = the halacha is in accordance with
Segment 14
TYPE: קושיא ותירוץ
Rava elsewhere accepts household testimony when the owners stood outside — answer: all household members were outside; the shepherd alone testifies
Hebrew/Aramaic:
וּמִי אָמַר רָבָא הָכִי? וְהָאָמַר רָבָא: בְּעָלִים עוֹמְדִים עִמָּנוּ בַּחוּץ, נִכְנַס שָׁלֵם וְיָצָא חָבוּל — מְעִידִין עָלָיו! אֵימָא: כׇּל בְּעָלִים עוֹמְדִים, וְלָא חָיְישִׁינַן.
English Translation:
The Gemara asks: And does Rava actually say this? But doesn’t Rava say: If the priestly owner of a firstborn animal was standing outside with us, and the animal entered the house whole and emerged injured, the household members may testify about it that the blemish was not caused by a person. Evidently, Rava maintains that the members of the priest’s household are deemed credible to testify about the priest’s firstborn. The Gemara answers: One can say that Rava is referring to a case where all the owners, i.e., the household members, are standing outside, while the shepherd alone remains inside. When the firstborn animal emerges injured, the shepherd is deemed credible to testify about the blemish and we are not concerned that he is lying.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara challenges Rava from his own statement elsewhere: if the owners were standing outside with us and the animal went in whole and came out injured, testimony about it is accepted — which seems to accept the household. The Gemara answers that Rava meant that all the household members were outside and only the shepherd remained inside with the animal, so he is the one who testifies. Rava’s ruling therefore says nothing about the household and does not contradict his ruling like Rabbi Yosei.
Key Terms:
- בְּעָלִים עוֹמְדִים עִמָּנוּ בַּחוּץ = the owners are standing outside with us
- נִכְנַס שָׁלֵם וְיָצָא חָבוּל = it entered whole and came out injured
- וְלָא חָיְישִׁינַן = and we are not concerned
Segment 15
TYPE: קושיא ותירוץ; פסק הלכה
Why state it? Lest we suspect the shepherd. Final ruling: like Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel — son and daughter, but not the wife
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אִי הָכִי מַאי לְמֵימְרָא? מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: נֵיחוּשׁ לַחֲשָׁדָא, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן. וְהִלְכְתָא כְּרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, וְדַוְקָא בְּנוֹ וּבִתּוֹ, אֲבָל אִשְׁתּוֹ לָא. מַאי טַעְמָא? אִשְׁתּוֹ כְּגוּפוֹ דָּמֵי.
English Translation:
The Gemara asks: If so, that all of the household members were outside, what is the purpose of stating that the shepherd is deemed credible? This ruling is obvious. The Gemara answers: This ruling is necessary lest you say that we should entertain a suspicion that the shepherd himself caused the blemish. Rava therefore teaches us that this is not so, and the shepherd is deemed credible. The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, that a priest’s household members may testify about his blemished firstborn offering. And this applies specifically to his son and daughter, but his wife may not testify. What is the reason? One’s wife is as oneself.
קלאוד על הדף:
The Gemara asks why Rava needed to say this if the owners were all outside, and answers that one might still have suspected the shepherd of injuring the animal for his employer; Rava teaches that he is believed. The Gemara then gives the final ruling: the halacha follows Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, so a priest’s son and daughter may testify about his firstborn. His wife may not, since ‘a man’s wife is like himself’ (ishto kegufo) — her testimony is treated as his own, and he is disqualified about his own firstborn.
Key Terms:
- נֵיחוּשׁ לַחֲשָׁדָא = let us be concerned about suspicion
- וְהִלְכְתָא = and the halacha is
- אִשְׁתּוֹ כְּגוּפוֹ = his wife is like his own person
Segment 16
TYPE: קושיא
Rav Pappa to Abaye: if, for Rabbi Meir, one suspect in one matter is suspect for the whole Torah, how can priests ever judge? ‘By their word every dispute…’
Hebrew/Aramaic:
אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב פָּפָּא לְאַבָּיֵי: לְרַבִּי מֵאִיר דְּאָמַר הֶחָשׁוּד עַל הַדָּבָר לֹא דָּנוֹ וְלֹא מְעִידוֹ, וְקָאָמַר רַבִּי מֵאִיר הֶחָשׁוּד לְדָבָר אֶחָד חָשׁוּד לְכׇל הַתּוֹרָה כּוּלָּהּ, כֹּהֲנִים הָכִי נָמֵי דְּלָא דָּיְינִי דִּינָא? וְהָכְתִיב ״וְעַל פִּיהֶם יִהְיֶה כׇּל רִיב וְכׇל נָגַע״!
English Translation:
§ Rav Pappa said to Abaye: According to Rabbi Meir, who says that a priest who is suspect about the matter of causing a blemish may neither adjudicate nor testify in cases involving that matter even on behalf of another, and in addition Rabbi Meir says that one who is suspected of transgressing one matter, i.e., who is known to have committed one transgression, is suspected of transgressing the entire Torah, it should follow that priests should also not be allowed to administer judgment at all. But isn’t it written with regard to the priests: “And according to their word shall every controversy and every stroke be” (Deuteronomy 21:5)?
קלאוד על הדף:
Rav Pappa raises a broader difficulty with Rabbi Meir’s position. Rabbi Meir holds that one suspect in a matter may neither judge nor testify about it, and also (as on 30b) that one suspect in one matter is suspect for the whole Torah. If priests are suspect about blemishes, it would follow that they may not judge at all — yet the Torah says of the priests, ‘and according to their word shall every controversy and every stroke be’ (Devarim 21:5). Abaye’s answer follows on 36a.
Key Terms:
- הֶחָשׁוּד לְדָבָר אֶחָד חָשׁוּד לְכׇל הַתּוֹרָה כּוּלָּהּ = one suspect in one matter is suspect regarding the entire Torah
- רִיב = a controversy, a legal dispute
- נָגַע = a stroke, an affliction; here understood as tzara’at and similar matters, judged by priests